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Posted 2015-04-27 4:23 PM (#10326 - in reply to #10324)
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Scott Laz - 2015-04-27 3:45 PM

Just catching up on the forums after being buried in work for the last few months. I’m very glad to see that this debacle has increased awareness of how the Hugo works and the importance of the nominating process. The hope is that more people will get involved, so that such tactics become less likely to succeed in the future. I’ll be voting “no award” in some categories, but there are three novels on the ballot that IMO could be worthy winners (which is actually not unusually low, based on past shortlists), so they’ll move up the reading list. For a good discussion/review of the novel nominees, see this week’s Coode Street podcast!

That's a good episode!  I love that they completely bypassed the controversy and just talked about the books.  Coode Street should be a staple for anyone interested in genre fiction.

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Posted 2015-04-27 4:44 PM (#10327 - in reply to #10324)
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Scott Laz - 2015-04-28 8:45 AM
For a good discussion/review of the novel nominees, see this week’s Coode Street podcast

Thanks for that; I'm on the third novel right now, so I'm going to bookmark it until after I've read the books.

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Posted 2015-04-27 6:31 PM (#10331 - in reply to #9299)
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Edmund Schubert has withdrawn from his nomination for Best Editor, Short Form.

“I can’t in good conscience complain about the deck being stacked against me, and then feel good about being nominated for an award when the deck gets stacked in my favor. That would make me a hypocrite. I can’t be part of that and still maintain my integrity.”

“While I firmly believe that free speech is only truly free if everyone is allowed to speak their mind, I believe equally strongly that defending people’s right to free speech comes with responsibilities: in this case, the responsibility to call out unproductive, mean-spirited, inflammatory, and downright hateful speech. I believe that far too many of Vox’s words fall into those categories — and a stand has to be made against it.”

And he's offering a very nice, curated sample packet from the Intergalactic Medicine Show's archives.

"Of course, I always think more reading is a good thing. Reading is awesome. Reading — fiction, specifically — has been proven to make people more empathetic, and God knows we need as much empathy as we can possibly get these days. I also believe that when readers give new works by new authors an honest chance, they’ll find things they appreciate and enjoy."

"In that spirit, I am taking the material that would have comprised my part of the Hugo Voters Packet and making it available to everyone, everywhere, for free, whether they have a WorldCon membership or not. Take it. Read it. Share it. It’s yours to do with as you will."

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Posted 2015-08-22 3:12 PM (#11184 - in reply to #9299)
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So who else is waiting with bated breath for the Hugo announcements this evening? 
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Posted 2015-08-22 3:23 PM (#11185 - in reply to #9299)
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Ceremony starts at 5am for me so I think I'll just read the results tomorrow :P
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Posted 2015-08-22 3:35 PM (#11187 - in reply to #11184)
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Engelbrecht - 2015-08-22 3:12 PM So who else is waiting with bated breath for the Hugo announcements this evening? 

There's a live simulcast for the ceremony.  I'll probably watch it so I can get the site updated right away.

http://www.ustream.tv/hugo-awards

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Posted 2015-08-23 1:21 AM (#11201 - in reply to #9299)
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Well now, that was quite a beating for the puppies. No doubt they'll claim victory but I guess this proves that states won't win you an actual award.
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Posted 2015-08-23 2:49 AM (#11202 - in reply to #9299)
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Reading up on some of the fallout from the ceremony. So much bitterness. I have a feeling next year is going to be rocky for the Hugos as well.
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Posted 2015-08-23 7:52 AM (#11205 - in reply to #9299)
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I watched it on ustream last night and when it became obvious how the votes were going, I started to see some sour grapes in the comment section. But it was a non-puppy sweep and I also had a very bad feeling about next years awards. Regardless of what GRM said in the preshow, I'm afraid a rule change may be in line.
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Posted 2015-08-23 10:39 AM (#11206 - in reply to #11205)
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Badseedgirl - 2015-08-23 7:52 AM I watched it on ustream last night and when it became obvious how the votes were going, I started to see some sour grapes in the comment section. But it was a non-puppy sweep and I also had a very bad feeling about next years awards. Regardless of what GRM said in the preshow, I'm afraid a rule change may be in line.

At least next year everyone will be on guard from the get go.  There will be a counter campaign ready to go if needed.  I'm afraid the Hugo has become a battleground rather than a celebration for genre fiction.

 

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Posted 2015-08-23 10:54 AM (#11207 - in reply to #11206)
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Here's the link to the full Hugo voting results:  http://sasquan.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/2015_Hugo_Final_Report.pdf
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Posted 2015-08-23 11:02 AM (#11208 - in reply to #11205)
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Hmm, Vox Day may give it another go but I do hope the sad puppies will see which way the wind is blowing.
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Posted 2015-08-25 12:15 AM (#11215 - in reply to #9299)
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excellent, well-researched piece on the controversy:
http://www.wired.com/2015/08/won-science-fictions-hugo-awards-matte...
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